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Suhur And Iftar Scenarios

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1) If someone eats Sahur hastily presuming that it is time for Suhur (without seeing clock etc.) but then realises the time has actually past Fajr time, then their fast is valid.

2) If someone breaks their fast before sunset hastily and could not see the sunset due to a cloudy sky (and did not have a Ramadaan chart), even then the person’s fast is NOT valid. The person is not sinful but they do have to make up that fast.

A maxim of the Shariah (near translation):
“You presume things as being the same as they are, unless another factor happens to remove that presumption.”

So, applying this to the first scenario, you presume that it is night until you are sure that it is day. So you ate and thought that it was day but it is still night. You continue along with the presumption that it is night. When you wake up in the morning for Suhur, it could be day or it could still be night. The general ruling is that it is still night as it was night just before you woke up; until you can clearly make out that it is day.

Applying the maxim to the second scenario, it is daytime before Maghrib. So you continue along with this idea that it is still day until you can make out that it is night and then you break your fast.

3) If dawn breaks and a person has food or drink in his mouth, the fuqaha’ are agreed that he should spit it out, and his fast is valid. This is like the ruling on one who eats or drinks because he forgets, then remembers he is fasting – if he hastens to spit out the food or drink in his mouth, his fast is still valid.

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Written by al Muddaththir

June 14, 2008 at 6:24 pm

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  1. I need confirmation when to begin fast. According to the quran its when you see the firt thread of light, correct? say fajir comes in at 4:45 and prayer is at 5am. what time does fast begin and why?

    Lucinda Webb

    August 17, 2009 at 2:03 pm

  2. Then fast begins at 4:45, when the second adhaan for Fajr is made [not to be confused with the Iqaamah].

    The prayer time is when the masjid decides to pray the Jamaa’ah … it can vary from masjid to masjid and it has nothing to do with the beginning of fasting.

    Hope that was clear sister

    wassalaamu ‘alaykum

    Ramadhaan !

    August 17, 2009 at 8:31 pm


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